This reposting is by request and due to my error of using MIME unknowingly. This newsreader "THOR" is new to me, I'm trying it out and as many know it does take some getting to know. Also this is more than just a reposting, there is additional information added to and in it. Also, since my first posting, I have been busy putting together a major addition to the web page I have. Identifying real problems that we can deal with today, while waiting for something to happen with the Amiga (one way or the other). I am aware of the Nov. 22 VIScorp update web page contents. VIScorp does not have the Amiga, and as stated they cannot say anything about it or their plans for it should they aquire it. Likewise, and regardless of what VIScorp management may or not be, no-one is in a position to flame them regarding something (Amiga) they do not have. Also, using the words of a well known Amiga supporter in his message to Escom but now directed to the Amiga user base in regards to VIScorp management, whatever it may be - It is up to VIScorp to figure it out. The Nov. 22 VIScorp update web page has no effect on this posting, nor should this posting have any effect on how VIScorp receives me. Though my web pages might :). ---------- All, Nothing happens without reason! The struggle of the Amiga, string of bad luck, is beyond coincidence. It is not my intent to create hype but only to look at the facts as I have gathered and put together. I may have a some errors in what I communicate but in regards to the big picture (bigger than just the Amiga) I'm not wrong, and I know it. I see what is happening and have seen a solution for a long time. I didn't realize the problem was so big so many years ago. I am not a programmer but certainly know enough about programming and electronics to know I do see a solution. Additionally, I do have a web page (several pages) as a primary of a realisticly possible solution. These pages also contain this posting and much additional information to consider. The home page is: http://www.mindspring.com/~timrue ***** I have updated my web pages to contain related topics/facets to consider. These where not available in my first posting of this. --- Sorry this is a bit longer than I had intended, but important --- All, An Atlanta Amiga user group had Motorola at their last user group meeting. The group was small but likley due the holiday. Anyway, of what the guy from Motorola had to say was regarding the PowerPC series of CPU's. And of this he pointed out that hardware and the ability to produce more advanced CPUs was not the problem. Software development is the problem and it is no small problem (this is a known and recognized problem). I believe it was this guy from Motorola who brought out the info on the GNP (gross national product) as software development fits into it. It's not my intent to hype anything here but to deal with the facts as best as I have been informed. I'm sure there exist the available numbers to check out and verify. ------------ * The Amiga was design to be an open architecture. Having a small and robust OS and in short time many programs contained an AREXX port, a doorway for controlling a program from outside of the programs user interface. * About 3 1/2 years ago C.M.U.s' Software Engineering Institute began research on Open Systems. They have determined such systems are more productive. http://www.sei.cmu.edu/technology/OPEN SYSTEMS * Within in this time frame of SEI the Amiga has had a struggle and has not evolved. Current status, it is in limbo. Contrary to falling prices elsewhere the Amiga went up in value when Commodore went under. A first in the computer industry? A phrase used "Amiga, the computer that won't die." * There is a major software development problem happening world wide but due to most software being developed in the U.S. it is a problem greatly affecting the U.S. The non-productive cost are rising and no one is claiming the problem does not exist. The problem has been written about time and again and the cost is growing and currently well over one hundred billion annually. A great deal more is being spent on failures and repairs than new software. * On world economy in general, to make the corrections needed, the U.S. would suffer a great deal more than any other country. (I got this off of some PBS show recently). The U.S. would become an economic disaster. This has to do with physical consumable product production on the world market. * Of the U.S. GNP a great deal of it is generated from the computer industry. More specifcally software. From Software, most of the dollar is being spent in failures and on repair. *** From the above it appears the U.S. GNP has some, not so small, foundation in software failure and repair transactions. * Software development has evolved from one stage to another. At one point structured programming was the thing, then o.o.p., and now componet programming. The next logical step of this evolution should be componet applications, where the users (end-user and/or programmer) are able to put application together to gain a greater value (enabling the needed software value added abilities). There are also other solutions to other facets of the software development problem, to be had by componet application. * The Amiga has always had the ability to tie programs together. It has just not had an easy to use tool to do so. AREXX is good but not easy enough. Considering where AREXX came from (IBMs REXX) even IBM know this. ------------- So, you can verify what you will of the above, but let's say it's all true for a moment. What's wrong with this picture? Coincidence only goes so far. The Amiga has missed many markets it could have been much more in. With set-top boxes being advertised from companies like Sony, Magnavox, etc. and the Xmas season here, the Amiga appears to be going to miss this market as well. Though many consumers are going to be disappointed with usuability given the quality of phone lines!!! From the comsumer level Emerson is not known to be a high quality company but rather an inexpensive product company, perhaps this may be good in that consumers won't be as financially disappointed and may be more willing to buy a less expensive set-top box as they realized the importance of the phone line quality. Phone line will improve but not without pains.. The Amiga is a low cost (given it's abilities) system that has something of a user attitude and following of getting software for free. Also, having something of a piracy following. (note: there is a work around to the piracy problem - the concept of sponsor-ware or Public Relations Marketing software where the developer gets paid from the sponsors and the users get the software for free. I wrote about this in 1990 and potential examples I had used are now reality. Net Browsers are one example but another ties into DTP and printers or output houses, software for this is now available free. Interestingly enough, PR software can hold a very important place in helping to solve the software development problem. See web pages.) The point is that there is little money moving thru software development on the Amiga than on the same number of machines on other platforms. Now to adjust the U.S. economy, without causing major problems, means to convert the non-productive expenses from software development failures and repair to something productive. Money must continue to change hands! For individual software development companies, currently most of the money is to be made in failure and repair. Rough figures are 140+ billion (yes, that's with a B) dollars changing hands due failure and repair vs. 92 billion in success. The incentive is with failure and repair and alot of little things add up to something big. The incentive is not with finding a solution but against finding a solution. Now let's say there is a solution, a solution that make it possible to apply componet applications and data together. A simple tool set that allows users of all levels to be involved in software/system development. A tool set that would allow a level of automation in programming to happen in order to reduce the failure and repair rate. (Delphi is almost such a product, only it does not address the typical user and has many other constraints about it and therefore doesn't really answer the problem.) *** Q: if exist, would the solution be identified and used? A: NO!!! Why? What it comes down to is "economy of greed". It can be written off as many other, and even very scary, things like: The U.S. economy would fall apart if we solve the software development problem to quickly (fear is a very powerful thing). But this is not what would happen. The finances being spent on failure and repair would shift to more productive endevors, money would still change hands. But it would be a matter of who's hands is it shifting from and to whom. Yes, money would shift away from software development (Interestingly enough, when a project starts getting into overruns, it is common pratice to reduce the size of the development team and the effect is faster and better development). Yes, there would be a shake-up but guess what? Being the problem is in the hands of the developers to solve, they are the first ones needed to make correction, the incentive is just not there. So certainly the problem is growing, failure and repair is simply more profitable for individuals than the solution. Certainly anything that gives way, points to, or hints at the solution is going to be down played... Software is simply not a direct physical product but an abstract product intended to help us produce physical products. But it is not the way it is being developed or used. It is being used as a direct product and therefore why it now holds far to high of a percent of the GNP. Software should never be this much of the GNP otherwise we'll have the problem we now do have. The U.S. is at economic risk and if we where not a superpower, perhaps a budget would have been set last year. Now where does all this put the Amiga? The Amiga is the most capable system today of putting the solution into action. From the lowest level of being a desk top system where the majority of computer users are (even those who develop for large systems can and do write code on desk-top/ workstations). The Amiga already has a huge store of available software and a time line that contains a real reason why the Amiga doesn't want to die. Yet it is in limbo and nothing happens without a reason. I believe the objective is to kill off the Amiga with it's low price tag, hidding the solution until this is done. Killing it off would be a matter of divide and conqure and wearing down the users with false promises. (The Amiga has a small enough peice of the pie to know these companies producing Amiga compatable systems are really just helping to cause an additional divide, weither they know it or not. The IBM clones worked to increase the base for Microsoft/Intel but also had, at the time, a much bigger potential market than now). Once killed, bring out the solution little by little but with a much higher price tag as well as to bring it out on the platform most used. Of course this method will never bring out the complete solution, nor will it ever really solve the problem. The Amiga is really not a target but just one victim. Maybe I'm wrong, but if I'm not then the current Amiga status will not improve. SEI has already verified open systems are more productive. There really is a major software development problem whos dollar is very much a factor in the GNP. And the Amiga continues to go from one bad situation to another and whos evolution has been in limbo for how long? And to think the Amiga is in the hands of banks. This is not speculation but gathering the facts to the best of my ability and drawing out the logical path events. It doesn't look good for the Amiga, or for us americans. On the positive side of this. There are alot of Amigas out there and apparently many who somehow know something is right special about the Amiga. Weither realized or not, the Amiga can handle the solution. The solution is going to be something that enables many programs and data to be easily tied together so companies can do more inhouse with software rather than hire out at a greater expence to have it done. A solution that puts software development in it's proper place in regards to the GNP. A solution more easily obtainable on the Amiga today than perhaps any other system, but certainly with desk-tops. No amount of excuses or rationlizations will change the evolving reality of the facts. Only addressing the facts with a solution will change the evolutional direction. And nothing can change this. The Amigas struggle and current state is no accident of a string of bad luck. Coincidence only goes so far. I trust you'll not take my word on the above figures or their relationships to each other. But that you'll check it out for yourself. This is no joke! I do wish it was. Maybe nobody really wants to see the problem for what it is. Tim Rue P.S. "This date will NOT be extended" but not yet being resolved really sounds like it's last years lack of U.S. budget setting. The inability of politicians to to act in a business manner? And likewise the Amiga continues to be produced and sold. VIScorp DOES NOT HAVE THE AMIGA but had effectively convinced many it did have it. The details of the Amiga status I do not know but the effect is clear. The Amiga is without a leader and without a leader there is no direction and things will not get better without a leader. This would be intentional if the objective does not include a future beyond the A4000.. The solution is going to have to happen with software development sooner or later (the sooner the better). And since the Amiga is a capable system.. ...... It would be a shame to have the Amiga not be the system the solution came from, simply due it's state of limbo. To have the Amiga miss out, as it has so many other markets, on something so big, yet so very well allready suited for. P.S.S. The Amiga following, a gut feeling it's somehow important? OVERALL - killing off the Amiga and then bringing it (facets and concepts from it) out on a more common platform, a platform with a certainty of a greater cash flow can contribute to improving the software development problem. However, this route may take a few years longer as well as only come out a little at a time. Never really solving or direcltly addressing the problem. Perhaps there is a better or at least additional way where all this can happen alot sooner. Product packaging is a support issue more than a product issue and with a modular type of system concept one can build the system(s) they want and as they can afford (more on web pages about this.) Also the OS is only part of the potential solution and as such, perhaps there is another OS being planned but I don't know. If so perhaps it will be versatile and robust enough to handle existing applications on the various platforms. Certainly much should have been learned about OS's from all we have done so far and in light of the software development problem. To help kill any sting that may be felt: much that we have on computers today, regardless of platform, came from Xerox, and withpout paying royalities to Xerox/PARC. Also Xerox is a planned presenter at the January? Atlanta based Amiga user group general meeting. (The group name is not mentioned here - because I haven't gotten approval from them to mention their name nor am I going to ask because the issue is does touch on politics and economy and these areas are not within the status of the non-profit group they are, but many know who this group is). Although I am a member of this group, what you read here is my work and it is outside of the group. It is not my intent to upset anyone but to present the facts as best I have been informed and to put the peices of these facts together. There is much more to consider than what is presented here (see my updated web pages - there is simply to much to be posting to the newsgroups). Thanks, Tim Rue Due to the crossposting I'm doing, I cannot keep up with any responces in a specific conference. If you want a responce from me then let me know, via email, which conference to look into. And if the messages you want me to respond to is productive in nature then email it to me to save me some search time. (if it not productive you'll either not let me know or want me to look for it and here I may not look). Thanks, and again I have a web page: http://www.mindspring.com/~timrue EMAIL: timrue@mindspring.com
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